tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post1029032365964658264..comments2023-10-23T11:24:13.532-04:00Comments on Diabetes Update: Antioxidant Vitamins Raise Insulin Resistance and Render Exercise UselessJennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-89855524730648475092011-12-14T11:25:04.344-05:002011-12-14T11:25:04.344-05:00Quote
"Pauling was one man. There is no way ...Quote <br />"Pauling was one man. There is no way of knowing if his supplementation had any impact on his life span. Maybe he would have lived longer without it. My dad who was of the same generation (and didn't supplement) lived to be 100. Meanwhile, the data pointing to the dangers of antioxidants include tens of thousands of people."<br />END QUOTE<br /><br />Which is why I Sword Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03917233914487103614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-40734263067062115102011-12-13T12:01:17.993-05:002011-12-13T12:01:17.993-05:00Pauling was one man. There is no way of knowing if...Pauling was one man. There is no way of knowing if his supplementation had any impact on his life span. Maybe he would have lived longer without it. My dad who was of the same generation (and didn't supplement) lived to be 100. Meanwhile, the data pointing to the dangers of antioxidants include tens of thousands of people. <br /><br />The idea that oxidative stress is like rust is one of Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-56935977012670552242011-12-13T11:41:37.631-05:002011-12-13T11:41:37.631-05:00Pauling lived 90+ while the lifespan of males is u...Pauling lived 90+ while the lifespan of males is usually in the 70s(80s if you don't smoke, do little alcohol, exercise, eat your veggies, eat your nuts), both his parents died before the age of 50, iirc(did his parents die of disease, accidents? or was it just natural causes?). He took 3g of vitamin C a day.<br /><br />Most animals synthesize several grams of C, and of the few that don'Sword Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03917233914487103614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-72069918959985592202009-11-25T16:12:37.921-05:002009-11-25T16:12:37.921-05:00I know this post is a month old, but I did discont...I know this post is a month old, but I did discontinue my supplementation, which included chromium, L-carnitine, and my multi-vitamin (which has a lot of anti-oxidents in it). I continued only the fish oil and vitamin D. My blood sugars have gone down and have stayed there, so it appears to be true for me that there was some interference with blood sugar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-30931888470865206332009-11-03T11:55:56.478-05:002009-11-03T11:55:56.478-05:00I was just reading a load of papers by Ronald Krau...I was just reading a load of papers by Ronald Krauss, including this one<br /><br />http://www.jci.org/articles/view/21637<br /><br />and this (not Krauss)<br /><br />http://www.jci.org/articles/view/19197/version/1<br /><br />both of which also throw mud on the fire: also another one I can't currently find about oxidation at the level of the mitochondria.<br /><br />All of which really Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-37210602041069480772009-10-30T16:38:25.669-04:002009-10-30T16:38:25.669-04:00OK. I take a pretty potent multi-vitamin with a l...OK. I take a pretty potent multi-vitamin with a lot of antioxidants. I'll leave it off for a while and see what happens. Of course. if insulin sensitivity did improve, I suppose it is possible that my blood sugars would not, but that it would take less insulin to achieve the same results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-68875778669933192662009-10-30T06:01:27.482-04:002009-10-30T06:01:27.482-04:00Speaking personally, I take a fair bit of suppleme...Speaking personally, I take a fair bit of supplements. Myo-inositol has dramatically improved mood and possibly also improved my tendency to PCOS and insulin disorders. I find myself less hungry and hormones are somewhat more regular. Mood is significantly better, and I have observed a complete elimination of a certain type of mood that has plauged me all my life. I have been on it for almost 4 ItsTheWooohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057537399918684119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-89839635692243917162009-10-30T02:59:50.426-04:002009-10-30T02:59:50.426-04:00So vitamin C supplements are bad ... unless they a...So vitamin C supplements are bad ... unless they are good?<br /><br />And Linus Pauling was wrong ... unless he was right?<br /><br />Jenny, Jenny, why can't you keep things simple for the masses who have been dumbed down my FoxNews?jimpurdy1943@yahoo.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974301744118775363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-43407001871855383512009-10-29T19:06:40.363-04:002009-10-29T19:06:40.363-04:00This doesn't close the book on Vitamin E. Eac...This doesn't close the book on Vitamin E. Each of these studies used only the α-tocopherol form of vitamin E; there are 8 different forms and two others of them (γ and δ) are abundant in natural foods. <a href="http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/133/10/3137" rel="nofollow">Huang and Apell</a> showed that α-only supplements cause the γ and δ blood-levels to drop. The deletrious Red Sphynxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11100740275894284607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-73284271500251226122009-10-29T12:47:57.145-04:002009-10-29T12:47:57.145-04:00I don't think you are being fair to Pauling...I don't think you are being fair to Pauling's legacy. He was desperately trying to point out huge flaws in published medical papers using the strict scientific discipline that (among other things) brought him his Nobel prize in chemistry.<br /><br />As usual when presenting more involved scientific arguments to doctors, you are 1) ridiculed or 2) ignored. Pauling experienced this manifoldUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07202590632974074811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-90417968068607339952009-10-29T12:28:56.693-04:002009-10-29T12:28:56.693-04:00Jenny - while I agree with what you have to say, L...Jenny - while I agree with what you have to say, Linus Pauling was not a distant second in the race with Watson and Crick in the discovery of DNA, and would be seen in their territory as a biologist.<br /><br />My bigger question regards Ocuvite - born with terrible eyes, glaucoma, mac. degen., retinopathy. I take it because there is some (faint?) evidence that it delays m.d. It is a different RLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13850927095383579725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-39536792973071165262009-10-29T09:28:52.699-04:002009-10-29T09:28:52.699-04:00Nilaus,
Follow the links in the post to the artic...Nilaus,<br /><br />Follow the links in the post to the articles. Several are free full text. <br /><br />Linus Pauling was an expert in a different domain and his knowledge of biology was quite limted. His enthusiasm for Vitamin C always struck me as an old man's peculiarity.<br /><br />My guess is that "insulin resistance" measured during exercise is really glucose burning and has Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-89545740718471345052009-10-29T08:58:49.105-04:002009-10-29T08:58:49.105-04:00I think these large scale studies should be swallo...I think these large scale studies should be swallowed with a huge grain of salt. The role of vitamin C has been the subject of debate for years (with Linus Pauling as a warm proponent for ample ingestion of the simple molecule).<br /><br />Perhaps the insulin resistance is caused by sugar and vitamin C competing for the same receptors.<br /><br />I would love to see some more details on the Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07202590632974074811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-41368889162647057952009-10-28T17:44:06.109-04:002009-10-28T17:44:06.109-04:00Thanks for this post Jenny. It is very informative...Thanks for this post Jenny. It is very informative and helpful.<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />VenkatVenkathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18052224100730196295noreply@blogger.com