tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post7135172230610967776..comments2023-10-23T11:24:13.532-04:00Comments on Diabetes Update: Why Weight Loss Stops on Long Term Low Carb DietsJennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-15594348961617108422009-10-21T09:59:23.074-04:002009-10-21T09:59:23.074-04:00I've noticed on some days my BG goes higher af...I've noticed on some days my BG goes higher after my standard 15g or less carbs breakfast. The corollary is that my evening BG often doesn't increase unless I seriously overdo the carbs (eating out), so the slope of insulin resistance over the day has changed.<br /><br />I don't yet have enough data but it may be coconut oil is to blame. The upside is that it is delicious and very Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-80386865365420948732009-10-05T12:53:10.914-04:002009-10-05T12:53:10.914-04:00Oh I just wanted to speak up in defense of coconut...Oh I just wanted to speak up in defense of coconut oil too. I love coconut oil, have no financial interest in it - beyond shelling out money to buy it, LOL. And it has never caused me any sort of weight gain. I have some coconut oil every day including every day of the last few weeks when I have lost 9 pounds. :-)Debbie Cusickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231168695763908917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-19960067820451803432009-10-05T12:05:30.774-04:002009-10-05T12:05:30.774-04:00Interesting but rather depressing post for someone...Interesting but rather depressing post for someone who would still like to lose at least 100 pounds! I'm sitting here hovering at about a 23% loss from my starting weight, stalled for about 4 months now more or less. The loss has done a lot to normalize blood sugars though. On a classic Atkins-like diet they didn't normalize quite as much as I would like. <br /><br />But when I adopted Debbie Cusickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231168695763908917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-75301700768768336272009-10-03T15:57:31.663-04:002009-10-03T15:57:31.663-04:00ItsTheWoo,
The Atkins bars are full of glycerine ...ItsTheWoo,<br /><br />The Atkins bars are full of glycerine which converts into glucose in most people who are in ketogenic states. So the bars in reality contain a lot more effective carbohydrate than they claim. I saw huge blood sugars spikes when I tried them years ago and so have others who reported on this online.<br /><br />I also am not crazy about the soy-based protein. My experiences in Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-52075589252270814562009-10-03T14:34:10.933-04:002009-10-03T14:34:10.933-04:00Oh and a counter point re: shakes. I eat atkins ba...Oh and a counter point re: shakes. I eat atkins bars often, at least 2 or 3 a week, I don't drink shakes because I wasn't ever fond of milkshakes and drinking fat/thick things but when I do have a shake they are typically quite filling. I actually find atkins bars are one of the most filling, glucose balancing foods I can find (on par with say, monosaturated fats like pecans and macadamiaItsTheWooohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057537399918684119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-34280819424255982772009-10-03T14:25:59.788-04:002009-10-03T14:25:59.788-04:00Re: Taking leptin...
Leptin is a protein, like in...Re: Taking leptin... <br />Leptin is a protein, like insulin, it is an important hormone found in our bodies just like insulin, and just like insulin certain conditions can make us deficient in it. Extreme weight loss is one condition that can cause leptin deficiency and this is documented in research (people who have lost extreme amounts of weight tend to make far less leptin than weight/height/ItsTheWooohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057537399918684119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-85730237769151469462009-10-02T13:59:46.375-04:002009-10-02T13:59:46.375-04:00Stephan tends to look at things on a population le...Stephan tends to look at things on a population level and tends to de-emphasise genetic factors, which may be a problem for specific individuals - or populations: some subpopulations ("races") tend to have higher levels of lactose or alcohol intolerance, for example. Then there are weird families like one side of mine, who have all the metabolic factors of "obesity" without Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-52020959596750287842009-10-02T13:50:40.873-04:002009-10-02T13:50:40.873-04:00@renegadediabetic: I've found the same thing w...@renegadediabetic: I've found the same thing works for me - but my IF is from dinner to dinner. On IF days, I just don't eat breakfast or lunch (apart from my supplements). It hasn't failed me yet.Killer of Sacred Cowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15419887858462670131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-56805104685345508972009-10-02T08:30:19.891-04:002009-10-02T08:30:19.891-04:00You drink such a shake and you are likely to lose ...You drink such a shake and you are likely to lose weight--much of it in the form of muscle mass. You're also asking, long term for malnutrition from missing the micronutrients in food since the "nutrients" in the shake are merely a ground up vitamin pill (ingredients fresh from polluted CHinese factories. You also may increase inflammation drinking up the omega-6 rich canola oil (aJennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-46461893846862091862009-10-02T08:13:45.560-04:002009-10-02T08:13:45.560-04:00So can I drink lots of Slim-Fast Low-Carb Diet Cre...So can I drink lots of Slim-Fast Low-Carb Diet Creamy Chocolate shakes, with 190 calories, 20 grams protein, 6 grams carbs, 4 grams fiber, 9 grams fat?jimpurdy1943@yahoo.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974301744118775363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-43071175471820332682009-10-01T18:50:32.944-04:002009-10-01T18:50:32.944-04:00Wooo, you've commented on this before and it m...Wooo, you've commented on this before and it makes sense. So, how does a maintainer get his/her doctor to prescribe leptin?Stargazeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09566854038842118222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-82589569887228005572009-10-01T17:49:45.286-04:002009-10-01T17:49:45.286-04:00ItsTheWoo,
Thanks for taking the time to write up...ItsTheWoo,<br /><br />Thanks for taking the time to write up an extremely important post!Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-91999274213501833662009-10-01T17:44:31.949-04:002009-10-01T17:44:31.949-04:00(part 2)
Here’s the facts.
The body’s anti starv...(part 2)<br /><br />Here’s the facts.<br /><br />The body’s anti starvation mechanisms are around “persevering its present fat stores”, that’s all. Sure there are points when the mechanism becomes totally freaked out (when starved markedly), but in general the mechanism kicks into effect whenever significant loss in body fat starts to occur… <b>regardless of how unnaturally fat disease had made ItsTheWooohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057537399918684119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-29113417080382995942009-10-01T17:44:03.774-04:002009-10-01T17:44:03.774-04:00I’m convinced weight loss stalling not better expl...I’m convinced weight loss stalling not better explained by poor nutrition is usually related to relative/absolute leptin deficiency. The “stalling” is both a result of energy out (becoming fatigued as hell) as well as energy in (consciously and unconsciously eating more – having “bad days” more often and eating a lot more calories even on the “good days” of sticking to low carb faithfully).<br />ItsTheWooohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057537399918684119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-23099147177481989152009-09-30T19:32:46.337-04:002009-09-30T19:32:46.337-04:00Hi Jenny,
I do think very high-fat diets (70+ per...Hi Jenny,<br /><br />I do think very high-fat diets (70+ percent of calories from fat) may lead to negative consequences in some people. Most people are probably better off with more carb than that if they can keep BG under control. But no one has shown (to my knowledge) in humans that animal fat leads to worse consequences than other fats in this context.<br /><br />I think the intermittent Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-72305425505955238542009-09-30T13:37:49.832-04:002009-09-30T13:37:49.832-04:00Susanne,
Metformin counts too. It makes the diff...Susanne,<br /><br />Metformin counts too. It makes the difference for me between gaining and losing, and that is even without it doing much of anything for my blood sugar since I'm insulin sensitive.<br /><br />I think that it because it blocks something the liver does that keeps it from putting down more fat.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-39753255189415661072009-09-30T12:44:35.829-04:002009-09-30T12:44:35.829-04:00I am almost 53 years old and was starting to be af...I am almost 53 years old and was starting to be afraid nothing was going to budge my number on the scale down, but I'm finally starting to lose again after a 9 month stall (at 240) after I lost an initial 25 pounds on my first run at a low carb diet. <br /><br />I am having Atkins Advantage shakes for breakfast, lunch, and a snack, and then a low carb dinner (meat and vegetables). Plus 2 Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723061384682934999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-3061134670173982852009-09-30T12:00:35.631-04:002009-09-30T12:00:35.631-04:00I have also had luck with intermittent fasting com...I have also had luck with intermittent fasting combined with a low-carb regimen. Twice a week I skip breakfast and lunch, then have a normal dinner. I don't get too hungry, as long as keep low-carb the day before the fast. <br /><br />I'll then carb-up for one meal a week. Pizza and beer!<br /><br />This seems to have lowered my blood sugar all through the week (even the day after my Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423414403093448857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-24424788664794379932009-09-30T10:47:32.371-04:002009-09-30T10:47:32.371-04:00Venkat et al,
I added coconut oil to my diet to i...Venkat et al,<br /><br />I added coconut oil to my diet to improve my HDLs. I found I added about 5 lbs and my blood sugar levels stalled. So I cut that out. I have done some experimenting with intermittent fasting and found that helped my sugars go back down. The method I used was to eat a good breakfast and lunch, but then eat nothing until the next morning. I do this about once a week andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-12775546638987154782009-09-30T10:10:49.235-04:002009-09-30T10:10:49.235-04:00I'm pretty well stalled out on weight loss, bu...I'm pretty well stalled out on weight loss, but have been successful at maintaining about a 30% weight loss for four years. I hang in there for the health benefits and celebrate the fact that I'm about 120 lbs lighter than I was four years ago.<br /><br />As for fat consumption raising insulin resistance, as far as I can tell, most studies on fat consumption also include high carb renegadediabetichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11710855525093861921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-39114342767673036882009-09-30T07:07:55.606-04:002009-09-30T07:07:55.606-04:00Stephen,
I have seen quite a few other studies th...Stephen,<br /><br />I have seen quite a few other studies that link insulin resistance to fat consumption, and more importantly, I do hear from time to time from people with diabetes who find their blood sugar going up, not down, when they eat the classic Atkins style low carb diet. <br /><br />So I think it is a possibility that on the very high fat diets low carbers eat there could be that kindJennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-20991639348046217322009-09-30T01:24:30.108-04:002009-09-30T01:24:30.108-04:00Hi Jenny,
Just wanted to clarify something about ...Hi Jenny,<br /><br />Just wanted to clarify something about my post on palmitic acid. Butter did not induce metabolic dysfunction in that rodent study when it was fed at an equal number of calories as the low-fat diet. I was hypothesizing that palmitic acid acts as a reversible signal to conserve blood glucose, but does not induce pathological, chronic insulin resistance.<br /><br />In humans, Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-414690374266580092009-09-29T19:58:26.848-04:002009-09-29T19:58:26.848-04:00Apparently I'm the exception to the rule. I st...Apparently I'm the exception to the rule. I started low-carb when I was over 50 and have lost 35% of my original weight. I've maintained the loss for 2.5 years now by doing low-carb.<br /><br />It took 3.5 years to lose the weight, but I kept at it. At various points I had to drop things like low-carb candy (the carbs are still there--they're just slower to release) and pork rinds (Stargazeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09566854038842118222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-35744137414049387062009-09-29T18:16:12.668-04:002009-09-29T18:16:12.668-04:00Now my issues with continued weight loss makes a l...Now my issues with continued weight loss makes a lot of sense. I think I'm very susceptible to "carb creep" and I'm going to have to take a long hard look at that in the next few weeks. Thanks for another great posting!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-57832609576223976792009-09-29T18:14:41.982-04:002009-09-29T18:14:41.982-04:00Venkat,
I have never seen anyone not associated w...Venkat,<br /><br />I have never seen anyone <i>not </i>associated with a site selling coconut oil report anything BUT weight gain after adding it to a diet.<br /><br />Fasting will raise the blood sugar of many people with Type 2 diabetes (and Type 1, too.) <br /><br />If you aren't taking metformin, it might be very helpful in lowering fasting blood sugar and insulin resistance. It is a Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.com