tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post4697506166275693208..comments2023-10-23T11:24:13.532-04:00Comments on Diabetes Update: Healthy Whole Grains, Just as Healthy as Pepsi--One Reader ReportsJennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-63560327246470525022012-03-22T07:09:08.028-04:002012-03-22T07:09:08.028-04:00The glycemic numbers are baloney. They aren't ...The glycemic numbers are baloney. They aren't even reproducible. Every study that attempted to come up with a glycemic index came up with different numbers. The whole thing is a marketing ploy that the grain makers got behind when low carb dieting caught on. study that actually measured the glucose curves produced by white and whole grain bread found they were identical Details and research Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-41690433179319858122012-03-14T04:51:36.900-04:002012-03-14T04:51:36.900-04:00Fructose is bad. I read a lot of articles about it...Fructose is bad. I read a lot of articles about it. here's an article that will tell you how bad <a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/02/highfructose-corn-syrup-alters-human-metabolism.aspx" rel="nofollow">fructose</a> is.Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815256753443743406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-64129873837635052832011-08-12T14:57:45.479-04:002011-08-12T14:57:45.479-04:00The Israeli doctor's recommendations sound log...The Israeli doctor's recommendations sound logical, but an actual research study that measured the blood glucose response to whole grain wheat bread and compared it to white bread found no difference. (Study <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168822708000934" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.<br /><br />The glycemic index is scientifically weak, non-reproducible, and Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-5509831314943126472011-08-12T14:40:54.687-04:002011-08-12T14:40:54.687-04:00Israeli Doctor David Servan-Schreiber recommends ...Israeli Doctor David Servan-Schreiber recommends eating mutligrain bread instead of whole wheat because the multigrain bread slows down the assimilation of sugars from wheat. Also bread raised with yeast raises the glycemic index, leavened (sourdough) bread on the other hand decreases the glycemic index, etc...tntneal4https://www.blogger.com/profile/00059180326982154511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-17593838563924593782011-08-02T21:50:48.994-04:002011-08-02T21:50:48.994-04:00Fred, There isn't much fructose in fruit. Tha...Fred, There isn't much fructose in fruit. That's something that the grain companies have made people think so they could sell all their corn sugar (which is full of fructose) as healthy.<br /><br />Look at the table half way down this page:<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose</a> <br /><br />As you can see there are Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-73537933629422683532011-08-02T20:35:53.985-04:002011-08-02T20:35:53.985-04:00I'm new here so don't be surprised if my q...I'm new here so don't be surprised if my questions have already been answered, Also, I'm a relatively new type 2 and still trying to figure it all out. For now, one question will do.<br /><br />You said that fructuse is worse for diabetics than glucose because it follows a metabolic path thru the liver. Well if that's so, what about fruit in general? Doesn't it include Fred Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15570862869226103257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-61917903208219595042011-07-26T15:16:40.550-04:002011-07-26T15:16:40.550-04:00Jenny why dont you tell us what you really think a...Jenny why dont you tell us what you really think about aguave!! LOL<br />thanks for all you do for us!!!<br />KarenKarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17274085359249172041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-11800332561089368792011-07-25T12:48:31.922-04:002011-07-25T12:48:31.922-04:00Boz,
I'm assuming you meant carbs not cars. ...Boz, <br /><br />I'm assuming you meant carbs not cars. (I too am always making typos places they can't be corrected.)<br /><br />Agave gel is a poor choice for exercise carbs as Agave is full of fructose which doesn't provide blood glucose but DOES make a beeline to the liver where it turns into liver fat and increases insulin resistance. Yet another bogus "health food" Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-72216411199583028412011-07-25T12:25:14.070-04:002011-07-25T12:25:14.070-04:00I, too, cannot eat oatmeal w/o huge spikes. whole,...I, too, cannot eat oatmeal w/o huge spikes. whole, quick, what have you, so I just say no. Oat meal just seems to thumb it's nose at insulin, as does rice and any fried carbohydrate. The meter doesn't lie, so live by it. The only time cars are an ally to me are when I do a longer (2+ hour) workout, such as a hard bike ride. Then, I have to take some on board. Hammer Heed and gels are whatBozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08287680290391700918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-514588715997424382011-07-23T09:37:42.568-04:002011-07-23T09:37:42.568-04:00Bronte2,
The exhaustion is because your blood sug...Bronte2,<br /><br />The exhaustion is because your blood sugar is going way up and way down. If you can flatten it, your energy will improve. <br /><br />But the only way to find out what foods will work for you is to test different things and see how your blood sugar performs after eating. Each person is different and what works for one might not work for another. <br /><br />Try the strategy Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-4678268002282250972011-07-23T01:47:02.817-04:002011-07-23T01:47:02.817-04:00I've just been diagnosed with Type 2. I know I...I've just been diagnosed with Type 2. I know I need to exercise but am soooo tired all the time I can barely get going at all, let alone take a long walk. I've spent hours trawling though the internet to find appropriate nutritional guidance and, as most people who read this site will know, there are so many contradictions out there. I'd be grateful if somebody could direct me to BronteT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/15163602186713988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-42802291970692199622011-07-14T13:07:49.011-04:002011-07-14T13:07:49.011-04:00Thanks Jenny, Point taken but I still feel that th...Thanks Jenny, Point taken but I still feel that the ADA is leading the world in encouraging doctors to believe that, for example 180 is an acceptable value, albeit it's better than new diabetics are used to. In France, they are no better. The advice I got last August when I left hospital was a real joke. Nothing was said about post prandial figures, all I was told was that I should adjust Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01083898440746329544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-26824014414405671592011-07-14T08:20:58.252-04:002011-07-14T08:20:58.252-04:00John,
Well, my thinking is that 180 mg/dl after m...John,<br /><br />Well, my thinking is that 180 mg/dl after meals is considerablylower than what the typical person with diabetes will see before treatment. Untreated Type 2 Blood sugars usually run anywhere from 250 to 400 after meals. So 180 is an improvement and the one study testing it as a target in real people showed a decrease in various complications. But it wasn't anywhere as good a Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-3253112330050144362011-07-14T04:43:12.837-04:002011-07-14T04:43:12.837-04:00Sorry Jenny,
I don't often take issue with yo...Sorry Jenny,<br /><br />I don't often take issue with your comment but this time I have to. I think your sentence should read "....<b>20 a day</b><br /><br />JohnJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01083898440746329544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-83481380986513092482011-07-13T15:32:57.857-04:002011-07-13T15:32:57.857-04:00Soozcat, The best analogy to the ADA's advice ...Soozcat, The best analogy to the ADA's advice would be if the American Cancer Society was telling people to only smoke five cigarettes a day.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-34234392324273843722011-07-13T14:49:30.700-04:002011-07-13T14:49:30.700-04:00180 mg/dl? Healthy? *snx* In what universe?
If yo...180 mg/dl? Healthy? *snx* In what universe?<br /><br />If you ask me, it's criminal what the ADA advertises as "healthy" BG targets for diabetics. It's akin to doctors claiming that a healthy body temperature range is 102° F or less.Soozcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12549632685008663664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-50300680788117575812011-07-12T16:26:53.553-04:002011-07-12T16:26:53.553-04:00@John:
My doctor complained about the lack of sta...@John:<br /><br />My doctor complained about the lack of starch and fruit in my diet, too. Of course, when I was sitting there in his office waiting to be sound, I found a diabetic flyer advising that diabetics stay under 180 mg/dL two hours after a meal. If he's going to give me such a generous target, then perhaps I can afford to eat grains. If I want to live past 50, I think I'll stickAddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12302869221387585552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-60110727819652526302011-07-12T10:15:40.205-04:002011-07-12T10:15:40.205-04:00Last year when I was diagnosed the doctor let me h...Last year when I was diagnosed the doctor let me have the weekend at home. I returned to the hospital on the Monday with the nutritional details of the meals my OH had served me over the weekend. She had kept them lowish in carbohydrate. The doctor gave me a severe telling off over the lack of starch in the meals and wrote to my GP to warn him that my diet was "not well balanced". Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01083898440746329544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-57764874055532035682011-07-12T10:14:13.357-04:002011-07-12T10:14:13.357-04:00Also, is Richard diabetic or prediabetic?Also, is Richard diabetic or prediabetic?Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04493123424195804149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-55631853769558057242011-07-12T09:45:52.555-04:002011-07-12T09:45:52.555-04:00question for richard:
you had 12 oz. of pepsi. ho...question for richard:<br />you had 12 oz. of pepsi. how much of the other foods in your test did you have?Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04493123424195804149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-31951706034147540092011-07-12T07:27:28.172-04:002011-07-12T07:27:28.172-04:00Here are some answers from Richard:
Quick follow...Here are some answers from Richard: <br /><br />Quick follow-up to two of your commentators: <br /><br />Here are the nutritional guides for the foods that I eat in my tests: <br /><br />http://www.pepsiproductfacts.com/infobyproduct.php<br /><br />http://www.quakeroats.com/products/oatmeal/old-fashioned-oats.aspx<br /><br />http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/ProductDetail.aspx?catID=750&prdID=Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-43181291033415452412011-07-12T00:07:02.082-04:002011-07-12T00:07:02.082-04:00I hate to break it to you, but your conclusion is ...I hate to break it to you, but your conclusion is slightly flawed. You added milk to two of the 3 whole grain items. Which distorts your results.Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688011266155055588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-51211644927121704672011-07-11T22:54:50.262-04:002011-07-11T22:54:50.262-04:00Clearly whole grains reward component must be very...Clearly whole grains reward component must be very high, or else this cannot be explained any other way.<br /><br />LOLz. Srry.<br /><br />Yea.<br /><br />It's really sad that this is so obvious - carbs spike blood sugar, which causes diabetic complications in diabetic people (due to a decompensated insulin/glucose regulation), however it just causes fatness of varying degrees in ItsTheWooohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057537399918684119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-59643983433573004662011-07-11T22:05:31.775-04:002011-07-11T22:05:31.775-04:00Grains will kill diabetics!!! NO one should eat th...Grains will kill diabetics!!! NO one should eat them at all!! <br /><br />I am reversing my T2 by living 100% Primal/Paleo...70 days ago my fasting BG was 190...today it was 117!!! I stopped taking my 2 medications just 2 weeks into the lifestyle!! <br /><br />To all those who don't believe me, visit my facebook page notes section for my journey and results so far. <br />http://facebook.com/Big Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06345969389366062246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-15197996831564638512011-07-11T18:56:05.273-04:002011-07-11T18:56:05.273-04:00Since I've seen even worse numbers after eatin...Since I've seen even worse numbers after eating a small portion of home boiled steel cut oatmeal, I'm not at all surprise by these results.<br /><br />But that isn't the point. The point is to test these foods yourself to learn what you can eat.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.com