tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post1569847671426252141..comments2023-10-23T11:24:13.532-04:00Comments on Diabetes Update: Let's Put our Heads Together: Suggest Diabetes-Friendly Foods for Indian and South Asian VegetariansJennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-54169395206695670692011-11-21T08:13:29.959-05:002011-11-21T08:13:29.959-05:00Becoming sleeping after eating a large serving of ...Becoming sleeping after eating a large serving of carbohydrate is almost always a sign that your blood sugar is going dangerously high.<br /><br />Buy yourself a cheap blood sugar meter and measure your blood sugar after eating that rice and you may get a nasty surprise. If you don't have to be a vegetarian for religious reasons, a vegetarian diet can be extremely hard on your health.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-38718979151700087902011-11-21T05:45:59.565-05:002011-11-21T05:45:59.565-05:00I recently went vegetarian (3months ago) and I am ...I recently went vegetarian (3months ago) and I am having a lot of trouble staying low-carb. I also find that I get really sleepy even after 100g of white rice (basmati). <br /><br />It was so easy to low-carb when I was eating meat. But I had time to get used to it and develop a system and 2-3 meals that I could make and eat on a regular basis. <br /><br />However, as a student and a horribleJaysykhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11008582372266998614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-46590298184694643922011-09-27T15:26:11.649-04:002011-09-27T15:26:11.649-04:00As a South Asian vegetarian, it is impossible to d...As a South Asian vegetarian, it is impossible to do low-carb with my lifestyle. Here's my background and reasons why I compromised with moderate carbohydrate diet a la the poster Rad above.<br /><br />Background: I am a thin Type II (123 lbs at 5'7") because of poor genetics (my grandad decided to pass this to me rather than some ancestral property). By choice, I have been an active Shekarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03221380397267944920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-50006563494487345962011-09-22T14:31:49.867-04:002011-09-22T14:31:49.867-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02907019249008418182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-80562738434449820292011-09-06T20:37:39.613-04:002011-09-06T20:37:39.613-04:00I have been a vegetarian since 1985 and low carbin...I have been a vegetarian since 1985 and low carbing since May 2009. I have dropped my HBA1C from 7.8% to 5.6% and seen a massive improvement in my general health, and I have lost over 20 kilos to date. It is great to see vegetarian diets beeing taken seriously.<br /><br />Indian and Asian food has always been part of my staple diet and I have adapted many recipes that I used to make before I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-22435411277492412432011-08-30T16:55:43.666-04:002011-08-30T16:55:43.666-04:00DogwoodTree05 said...
"The middle class and a...DogwoodTree05 said...<br />"The middle class and affluent acount for a large portion of the new diabetics. "<br /><br />I wonder if it is more accurate to say that the middle class and affluent account for a large portion of newly diagnosed diabetics getting regular treatment.<br /><br />No, the answer is it is more prevalent in the upper and middle class. I work with both. The middle Andrebocohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10397879487399886462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-46474201405688479192011-08-29T12:13:24.587-04:002011-08-29T12:13:24.587-04:00hink this might be what you are looking for: a blo...hink this might be what you are looking for: a blog for Indian diabetic recipes<br />http://gitaskitchen.blogspot.com/2009/03/polenta-upma-and-award.htmlTanishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17707373656059294990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-18563094173913554702011-08-27T23:34:10.049-04:002011-08-27T23:34:10.049-04:00This is documented fully in the book, The Whole So...This is documented fully in the book, The Whole Soy Story by Dr. Kaayla Daniels. She documents very fully that those cultures generally used small amounts of soy fermented using techniques that made it safe that NO ONE in the east uses now. <br /><br />It is mainstream medical knowledge that soy slows the thyroid, and has many other negative effects. It has also recently been disproven that soy Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-78773339385776725892011-08-27T22:40:06.961-04:002011-08-27T22:40:06.961-04:00I'm confused by what you say about soy, becaus...I'm confused by what you say about soy, because the Japanese, Chinese and Koreans have been eating it for millennia, and I don't THINK they have any excess of thyroid problems. Could it be that the PROCESSING of soy to form fake proteins is really the problem rather than soy itself?Nataliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06909597803703850020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-29414071778210196242011-08-27T17:58:57.641-04:002011-08-27T17:58:57.641-04:00Rad,
You bring up a very important point. In man...Rad, <br /><br />You bring up a very important point. In many cultures, it is rude to refuse food. I was raised that way, and spent a summer living with a family in a foreign country where the culture was that food should be offered until the guest stopped eating. Since I'd been trained to eat everything I was served and leave the plate clean, things became very strained and I got to where I Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-54193420394987899302011-08-27T17:52:56.573-04:002011-08-27T17:52:56.573-04:00Continuing my previous post, I think people in the...Continuing my previous post, I think people in the western world or in south Asia, vegetarians or non-vegetarians, eat a lot more food than is really necessary. Post diagnosis, I have significantly reduced the total quantity of food. In the initial days I used to get a "not yet full" feeling but the body quickly got accustomed to the reduced quantity of food and now satiety returns Rad Warrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02822478962792020689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-26586143665672398262011-08-27T17:28:02.688-04:002011-08-27T17:28:02.688-04:00I am a south Indian vegetarian living in Canada an...I am a south Indian vegetarian living in Canada and was diagnosed type 2 diabetic 6 years ago. I don't do low carbing but have reduced the carb content of my diet significantly compared to my pre-diagnosis days. I eat one third of the rice I used to eat before and compensate with increased amount of curries (cooked vegetables.) The curries are typically made of such vegetables as cabbage, Rad Warrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02822478962792020689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-19272698014918185162011-08-27T14:59:59.266-04:002011-08-27T14:59:59.266-04:00"The middle class and affluent acount for a l...<i>"The middle class and affluent acount for a large portion of the new diabetics. "</i><br /><br />I wonder if it is more accurate to say that the middle class and affluent account for a large portion of newly diagnosed diabetics getting regular treatment.DogwoodTree05https://www.blogger.com/profile/17039860673929141575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-36734671144726884892011-08-27T09:52:59.926-04:002011-08-27T09:52:59.926-04:00After going low carb, my husband & I gave up a...After going low carb, my husband & I gave up a lot of our favourite Indian foods such as parathas and naans. Except for dosa/tosai, which is a pancake type made from fermented rice and mung bean flours. Our reasoning is that it is fermented, so less carb-y. My husband's blood sugar levels seem well-controlled. A similar food is idly, made from the same ingredients but steamed instead. JP Lafunggahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427527806748828559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-21007995711818779172011-08-26T21:38:59.763-04:002011-08-26T21:38:59.763-04:00Venkat,
Thanks so much for your very helpful expl...Venkat,<br /><br />Thanks so much for your very helpful explanation. I'm really heartened by the response we are getting to this post!Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-24572544938183288672011-08-26T21:01:43.441-04:002011-08-26T21:01:43.441-04:00Hi Jenny,
I am a south Asian / south Indian veget...Hi Jenny,<br /><br />I am a south Asian / south Indian vegetarian (for religious reasons). I a Male, 40 years, Type 2 diabetic for the past 12 years. I follow low carb for the past 3 years (since May 2008) and maintain blood sugar under control. I live in the US...<br /><br />I eat almond pancake in the morning - this requires 1 egg, almond, coconut / olive oil, cinnamon etc - ~ 600 calories<br /Venkathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18052224100730196295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-64061550056194192762011-08-26T10:03:29.749-04:002011-08-26T10:03:29.749-04:00Andrebocoand Ravenrose, Thanks for some very hel...Andrebocoand Ravenrose, Thanks for some very helpful ideas and statistics.<br /><br />When we talk about dealing with diabetes worldwide the cost of protein becomes a huge issue, because that is what keeps so much of the world eating rice and grain. We can't forget that one reason that people eating "traditional" diets didn't develop blood sugar problems is that they were Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-69491562789173131112011-08-26T09:37:41.111-04:002011-08-26T09:37:41.111-04:00Good discussion.
I think the first thing to remem...Good discussion.<br /><br />I think the first thing to remember is that people can be quite robust on diets where FAT is the primary source of calories. <br /><br />It's not too hard to create a healthy low carb diet without meat, even to emulate the flavors of South Indian cooking, but the portion sizes are going to be small because of the high fat content. You don't get that rice bulk.<ravenrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240636973692681707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-3976688690490385942011-08-26T00:24:28.526-04:002011-08-26T00:24:28.526-04:00I have been working for the last 3 1/2 years with ...I have been working for the last 3 1/2 years with diabetics in India. 2 of them with Dr. Ron Rosedale. The middle class and affluent acount for a large portion of the new diabetics. They have abandoned their traditional use of ghee and coconut because they were told that fat is bad. When they dropped the fat they increased the sugar enormously. It is hard to get a steak in India that doesn't Andrebocohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10397879487399886462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-40766134408673533642011-08-25T16:25:01.730-04:002011-08-25T16:25:01.730-04:00My guess is that the reason is the same that expla...My guess is that the reason is the same that explains why so many other populations have had high rates of diabetes a generation after coming into a situation where there was more food available than in past centuries. <br /><br />I found an old medical book from the 1920s that explained that adult onset diabetes was a disease mostly found in Russian Jewish immigrants. It wasn't their diet, Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384082448952856117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30206473.post-25928370973966079782011-08-25T15:49:03.569-04:002011-08-25T15:49:03.569-04:00Before we make suggestions it would be good to und...Before we make suggestions it would be good to understand why it is that south Indian vegetarians who eat mostly rice and vegetables have such extraordinary high rates of heart disease and diabetes compared to either north Indians who eat meat and wheat, or compared to American vegetarians who eat lots of rice and vegetables too.<br />The closest I've gotten to south India is Miami, so I Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02266618729820780848noreply@blogger.com